In a conversation that’s by turns heartbreaking and humorous, podcaster Nora McInerny and writer shares her hard-earned wisdom about life and death. Her approach to something that will influence all of us, is as liberating as it’s gut-wrenching. Most powerfully, she encourages us to shift the way we approach grief. “A grieving person is going to laugh again and grin,” she states. “They’re going to move forward. But that doesn’t mean that they have moved on.”