In a conversation that’s by turns hilarious and heartbreaking, podcaster Nora McInerny and writer shares her wisdom concerning life and death. Her frank approach to something that will, let us face it, affect us all, is as liberating as it’s gut-wrenching. Most powerfully, she motivates us to shift how we approach grief. “A grieving person will laugh and grin,” she states. “They’re going to proceed. But that doesn’t mean that they have moved on.”