In a conversation that’s by turns hilarious and heartbreaking, writer and podcaster Nora McInerny shares her hard-earned wisdom about life and death. Her frank approach to something that will affect us all, is as liberating as it is gut-wrenching. Most importantly, she encourages us to shift how we approach grief. “A grieving person is going to laugh again and grin,” she states. “They’re going to proceed. But that doesn’t mean that they have moved on.”