In a conversation that is by turns humorous and heartbreaking, author and podcaster Nora McInerny shares her hard-earned wisdom about death and life. Is as liberating as it’s gut-wrenching. Most powerfully, she encourages us to change the way we approach grief. “A grieving person is going to laugh again and grin,” she states. “They’re going to move forward. But that does not mean that they’ve moved on.”