In a conversation that’s by turns heartbreaking and hilarious, podcaster Nora McInerny and author shares her hard-earned knowledge about death and life. Her approach to something which will influence us all, is as stern as it is gut-wrenching. Most powerfully, she encourages us to shift how we approach grief. “A grieving person is going to laugh again and grin,” she says. “They are going to proceed. But that does not mean that they’ve moved on.”