In a conversation that is by turns heartbreaking and hilarious, podcaster Nora McInerny and writer shares her knowledge about life and death. Her candid approach to something that will, let’s face it, affect us all, is as liberating as it is gut-wrenching. Most importantly, she motivates us to change how we approach grief. “A grieving person is going to laugh again and smile again,” she says. “They’re going to move forward. But that doesn’t mean that they’ve moved on.”