In a conversation that’s by turns heartbreaking and humorous, podcaster Nora McInerny and writer shares her wisdom about life and death. Her frank approach to something that will influence all of us, is as liberating as it is gut-wrenching. Most importantly, she motivates us to change how we approach grief. “A grieving person will laugh and grin,” she states. “They are going to proceed. But that doesn’t mean that they’ve moved on.”