In a conversation that’s by turns heartbreaking and humorous, podcaster Nora McInerny and author shares her wisdom about death and life. Her frank approach to something that will affect all of us, is as liberating as it is gut-wrenching. Most powerfully, she encourages us to change the way we approach grief. “A grieving person will laugh and grin,” she states. “They are going to move forward. But that doesn’t mean that they have moved on.”